Benefits and Compensation

Green Circles Are Dangerous, Red Circles Are Just Expensive

In yesterday’s Advisor, consultant Terry Pasteris offered guidance on compensation metrics; today, dangers of Green Circles plus an introduction to the compensation guide that puts federal and state regulations at your fingertips.

Red Circle employees indicate you are spending too much on compensation relative to the value of the jobs, says consultant Terry Pasteris, CCP, GRP, but Green Circles may set you up for a lawsuit. Pasteris’s comments came at a recent BLR-sponsored webinar.

Red Circle employees are those who are paid over the maximum for the range established for their positions. They are paid more than the job is worth to the company, says Pasteris, who is president of TLMP Consulting Group.

There are a number of ways employees can become red circled, but the primary reason is that they have been in the job a long time and just keep getting raises that are higher than the increases to the range. If the ranges are well set and track the market regularly, red circles may indicate a lack of discipline in managing the system, says Pasteris. Managers just aren’t being tough about following increase guidelines.

Red Circles aren’t dangers to the company except that they are digging into profits. Green Circles are another story.

Green Circles are those who are paid under the minimum for the range. This typically happens, for example, when someone is promoted from a much lower position and managers don’t want to give a huge raise of say, 20 percent or 30 percent.

Generally, Green Circles have the potential to cause legal problems. If the Green Circle employee is a member of a protected group, the Green Circle status could look like discrimination and subject the company to litigation, especially if others in the same job are all paid in the range.


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You Shouldn’t Have Red and Green Circles … But

Generally, if the system is working right, you shouldn’t have any of these; however, says Pasteris, that’s not the way it works in the real world. You probably should address Green Circles immediately. At a minimum, have a plan to deal with them, says Pasteris.

With Red Circles, what you do depends on the reason for the high pay rate. If it is the result of a reorganization or reclassification of well-performing employees, you may tolerate the situation for a while.

Our Compa-ratio is 109

What if you have a very high compa-ratio like 109? asks Pasteris. That would mean that you are paying nearly 10 percent higher than your system says you should.

But take a look at tenure and age and other factors. For example, if your market positioning is where you want it (say, your strategy is to pay at the 75th percentile and you are paying at the 75th percentile), and you have a preponderance of long-term, seasoned employees, and your turnover is zero—that all fits together into an OK package, says Pasteris.

But it is a generous program, she concludes.

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3 thoughts on “Green Circles Are Dangerous, Red Circles Are Just Expensive”

  1. Red Circling is a difficult issue. Unfortunately mosts posts online talk from an employers standpoint and the employees standpoint is never heard.

    I was an employee that was red circled in my job grid for 6 years, and if I can confide in anyone it was probably one of the worse experiences of my life. Red Circling left myself feel worthless, not equitable to my fellow employees, and standing up to my employer in regards to this issue ended in myself being “let go without cause”.

    Here is my history in regards to red circling, and let me know if you feel that my employer or HR was morally correct.

    I was hired in 2006 and was offered a wage that my employer felt that they could afford. in 2008 a market study was done and showed that I earned more than my position was worth so I was red circled. At the time I did not know what red circling meant, however at my office red circling was completed by not allowing the red circled employee to receive the cost of living percentage that all other employees receive to allow them assistance in paying for rising cost of commodities.

    From an employees standpoint this is the WRONG way to conduct red circling. As an employee I did nothing wrong and I felt I was punished by being red circled and I did not feel equitable to my fellow employees that received the cost of living percentage allowance. All employees base their spending habits on their wage, they can not control cost of inflation, that is why as an employer cost of living is given to everyone to assist in paying for the rising cost of commodities. When you take away someone’s cost of living he can not stay current with his fellow employees, and therefore has to cut back his spending habits, just because the employer screwed up and offered him too much money when he was hired.

    This is the employers fault for offering too high of a wage to the employee when he started. The employees cost of living should not be reduced due to the employers mistake.
    Jason

  2. Thanks Jason for providing your story on this. It sounds very hard and help me consider my options. I am considering an offer from my company to be red circled. I was demoted on parental leave but I am not in a union and every is pushing me to leave. There is no clear direction but the negotiator is offering to work out a deal for red circling back to my previous salary in the my current position. It seems wrong to allow the company to win this way but my chances are low of success and I have to provide for my family. It seems to be if you are a good employee and poor management wants to eliminate you, you have to accept to those in power no bad they are win. If anyone has succeed, I would like to hear their story. Good luck everyone, Michelle

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